tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091338249780921196.post8036254531266815529..comments2012-02-12T18:23:51.028-05:00Matt Bishoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03035092759366321726noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091338249780921196.post-26472650841215891662010-03-12T22:52:53.895-05:002010-03-12T22:52:53.895-05:00www.nobiasbaseball.com is the best. Thank your for this article. I enjoyed it very much.<br />AAA Toronto Payday Loans 1172 Bay St #101, Toronto, ON M5S 2B4 (416) 477-2817Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091338249780921196.post-55967788549256311482010-01-25T00:35:02.340-05:002010-01-25T00:35:02.340-05:00The author of www.nobiasbaseball.com has written an excellent article. You have made your point and there is not much to argue about. It is like the following universal truth that you can not argue with: We all think, at least once in our lives, that the clock is wrong. 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Thank you!<br /><br />Sorry for offtopicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091338249780921196.post-74831566634302845742008-03-04T17:40:00.000-05:002008-03-04T17:40:00.000-05:00Service time is key.<BR/><BR/>I believe in the last year of arbitration you are actually allowed to compare yourself to free agents, so salaries can really get up there.<BR/><BR/>Of course win shares are great, but when they do an arb hearing they stick to the basics. I heard they were actually comparing Howard to Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig!<BR/><BR/>Normally the comps are current players of course.<BR/><BR/>ChuckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091338249780921196.post-18843003177207891942008-02-29T19:53:00.000-05:002008-02-29T19:53:00.000-05:00Anon DRB Fella,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for being our first poster! You bring up some very good points about the arbitration process, particularly the importance of MLB service.<BR/><BR/>What I was trying to offer here was a bit more rudimentary comparison of this year's arbitration class to similar player values in free agency (as I referred to as the market).<BR/><BR/>Win shares was the stat that I thought best if we were to choose just one, because it is simple, intuitive and can be applied across positions. I felt it was appropriate for this basic overview approach.<BR/><BR/>Granted, arbitration is certainly no free market, as you bring up, but I was simply trying to remove the restrictions (as I'm sure the players would appreciate in real life) for a brief comparison.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting and offering a different perspective on the matter. Hope to read your comments again in the future (with a name!).Matt Wilsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17764491253985774755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091338249780921196.post-13907272734617580462008-02-29T18:38:00.000-05:002008-02-29T18:38:00.000-05:00Hey guys. Came over from DRB to see what you were doing. Have to reset Google account so went anon for now. Good luck with your blog!<BR/><BR/>Matt, perhaps the issue with differential pay here is the result of how the arbitrators slot players for analysis, and the different data sets they use based on where you are in the process. It's not nearly so simple as comparing across all players in a positional catagory or even less comparing across positions. And I don't think "win shares" are likely used at all. Win shares were designed as a statistical construct to compare players across positions, which isn't the approach in arbitration, so wouldn't be used. That win shares are actually arbitrarily multiplied by 3 to enhance player differentiation reduces its real world usefulness in the critical issue of salary. While market forces play a role, the process is far from a free market system. <BR/><BR/>Second, the fact is that perhaps the key variable in the arb process is where one is in it - 1st, 2nd, or 3rd year. That explains the bulk of variations you're discussing here, for example the variation between K-Rod (year 3) and Valverde (year 2) - plus the fact that the former is a 6-year closer, the latter just became a fulltime one. Same "what year" issue with Wang (year 1), and Perez (year 3). Given the "seniority", Wang's actually doing much better than Perez. I was actually surprised Howard won his hearing - that was a huge award for a 1st year arb player. As an example, Morneau (also a 1B) was awarded less than half that after his MVP year.<BR/><BR/>The fact is arbitration isn't by any means a pure market instrument - players salaries can't be reduced more than 20% and the arbitor has to choose one of the 2 salary numbers. It's a pretty cumbersome process that I think the owners have come to hate. If you look at the numbers, its become the area where more large year to year salary increases are gotten. And it has shifted teams contract approach so that most of the long term deals are now done with players entering or early in their arb years in the hopes of trading security for income maxization and gaining more cost certainty. <BR/><BR/>Free agency by comparison has become an income death zone for all but a few of the players. Of course that also has to do with the fact that its a completely free market - perhaps the best example in capitalism of a free labor market, since so much info is available to all parties. Clearly a good topic for an economics thesis if anyone cares to take it on - it likely already has been treated in a few ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com